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Probate

May 01 2018

How Much Does a Probate Lawyer Cost?

Probate is a scary word. You read about people’s advice to “avoid probate!” You hear that the government will take all the money in probate. (Not true, by the way). Probate is mysterious, and it will probably involve hiring a probate lawyer. But how much does a probate lawyer cost?

How much a probate lawyer charges will depend on the size of the estate.

Small estates with no real property may only cost a few hundred dollars. Larger estates with modestly priced real property might cost a couple of thousand. For estates with a value of over $200,000, a probate lawyer will cost about 2% of the value of the estate.

Small Estates With No Real Estate

In Wyoming, a small estate is one where the property has a value of less than $200,000. If there is no real property (land, house, etc.), then probate involves filing an Affidavit for Distribution with the County Clerk. This affidavit can be a simple two page document, or it can be a complex, multi page document. The complexity depends on the number of heirs, the number and nature of the assets, and how they are to be distributed.

Probate lawyers’ fees for small estates vary. We charge from $450 to $995*, depending on the complexity.

Small Estates With Real Estate

If the estate is valued at less than $200,000, but includes some real estate, then a probate lawyer will charge considerably more. This is because probating any real property requires the filing of a court proceeding. It will involve filing a petition for a decree of distribution, setting a court hearing, advertising the hearing in the newspaper, and preparing the Decree of Distribution.

Sometimes, though rarely, someone will object to the proposed distribution. In those cases, there will be court hearings, and a probate lawyer will cost even more.

We charge $1,500* in lawyer fees for this service, if there is no hearing. There are additional, non lawyer costs, such as filing fees, publication costs, and recording fees.

Formal Probate

When an estate is worth more than $200,000 in Wyoming, then it will have to go through a formal probate process.

The cost of a probate lawyer in a routine probate is set by Wyoming State Statute. It is a minimum of $4,450, and ends up being about 2% of the value of the estate.

If there are will contests, or lots of creditors, property needs to be sold during the probate, then the probate is not routine. In those cases, the court may allow additional attorney fees for extraordinary services.

Conclusion

How much a probate lawyer costs will depend on the size and the complexity of the case. It could be as little as a few hundred dollars for an Affidavit for Distribution. Or it could be tens of thousands of dollars for a large estate.

By Steve Harton

*Attorney fees are difficult to predict. The fees listed in this article are for illustration only. To find out the fee we would charge for your specific case, please talk to our attorney.

Written by Steve Harton · Categorized: Probate

Apr 30 2018

What Does JTWROS Mean?

You may have seen JTWROS written after your name on your car title, but what does it mean? JTWROS means Joint Tenants With Rights of Survivorship. But what does that mean?

When two or more people own property such as a car together, they can own it in a couple of ways. One way is as tenants in common, the other is joint tenants with rights of survivorship.

The difference becomes important when one of the co-owners dies.

Tenants in Common

If a person co-owns property as a tenant in common, and then dies, then his heirs get his share of the property. So if you co-own a car with your boyfriend, and your boyfriend dies, then you might be a co-owner of the car with his parents or his kids.

Joint Tenants With Rights of Survivorship

If on the other hand, a person co-owns property as a JTWROS, and then dies, then the other co-owner(s) receive the property.

This is why people use JTWROS as a way to avoid probate.

It is also useful for unmarried couples to own property like this together. If something happens to one of them, then the other gets the property. It does not matter who the heirs are, or who is in the decedent’s will. The property passes outside of probate.

When is JTWROS Not a Good Idea?

It is not a good idea when you want the property to pass to the dying co-owner’s heirs. For instance, if a parent has four children, and each of the four kids have children of their own. The parent might want each of their kids’ share of the property to pass on to their own children.

Conclusion

Holding property as Joint Tenants With Rights of Survivorship can be a good idea. However, you have to know what it means in order to know if you really want to own property as JTWROS.

By Steve Harton

 

 

Written by Steve Harton · Categorized: Estate Planning, Probate

Dec 08 2016

Insurance company is not following will

I had a call the other day from a lady complaining about an insurance company. She complained that the insurance company is not following will that her father wrote.

In the will, father left everything he had to his daughters. He also named the caller lady his executor.

Father also had a life insurance policy. Daughter sent in the death certificate, and asked the insurance company to mail her the money. She told the insurance company that she was going to divide the money among the sisters, as the will said.

The insurance company wrote back and said sorry. They will not send her the money. They will be distributing the money according to the beneficiary designation of the policy.

So, this lady was upset because she thought she should get the money, so that she could split it with her sisters.

But there were a couple of problems with this lady’s plan. One should have been expected, but the other one was a surprise.

Life Insurance Policies Pay According to Beneficiary Designations

When a person buys a life insurance policy, the company requires the owner to designate who the money will go to. This is called a beneficiary designation.

People usually designate their spouse, their children, and/or some other relatives. If a beneficiary dies before the owner dies, then the money goes to the other beneficiaries, or to the owner’s estate. Each insurance policy is unique, and this can vary.

Father listed his daughters as beneficiaries of the policy. However, to these sisters’ surprise, he also listed one of his nephews as a beneficiary.

This nephew had lived with them for a while when they were all teenagers, but he hasn’t had much to do with the family since then. That is probably why the father did not leave him anything in his will.

Unfortunately for the sisters, and fortunately for the nephew, father never updated his beneficiary designations. Even though he owned the policy for about forty years.

This is why you should check your beneficiary designations every year, and make changes, if necessary.

Insurance Proceeds Do Not Pass Through Probate

I then explained to the lady that insurance policy proceeds are not part of a probate estate. Therefore, it does not matter what the will says.*

The insurance company will pay out the policy according to the beneficiary designation. The policy holder can name whoever they want as the beneficiary. They can also designate the percentage that each person will receive.

Insurance Policy Proceeds Are Paid Directly to the Beneficiary

Furthermore, the insurance company will cut a check to each beneficiary. The company will send it to them directly, and not to the executor, the person administering the estate. Therefore, the administrator would not be able to distribute the money according to the terms of the will anyway.*

So the end result for this lady and her sisters was that the insurance company cut a check to each sister and to the nephew, and mailed it directly to them.

Planning Tip

If you have a life insurance policy, it is a good idea to check your beneficiary designation periodically. Once a year would be good, when you are going through your annual legal checkup.

* The only exception to this is if there is no beneficiary designated, or if the policy holder designates his estate as the beneficiary. 

How Can We Help?

Here at WYeLawyers, we can help you review your beneficiary designations, and help you with drafting a will, or a trust, if appropriate. So take the next step, and schedule a consultation by calling 307-382-5545.

By Steve Harton

Written by Steve Harton · Categorized: Probate · Tagged: life insurance, probate, wills

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